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		<title>By: abbeville</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind words about our blog--our goal is to provide our readers content that&#039;s uniquely identifiable with, and related to, our books and brand. Hopefully the result is entertaining as well as a little bit different from anything else out there.

We&#039;re enjoying Electric Alphabet, too, and are adding it to our list of links. Thanks again!

- The Abbeville Manual of Style Team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your kind words about our blog&#8211;our goal is to provide our readers content that&#8217;s uniquely identifiable with, and related to, our books and brand. Hopefully the result is entertaining as well as a little bit different from anything else out there.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re enjoying Electric Alphabet, too, and are adding it to our list of links. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An analog to the marketing blog is the publicitycast -- the publisher podcast that isn&#039;t aimed at any particular kind of reader but is simply all about the publisher. Boring.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An analog to the marketing blog is the publicitycast &#8212; the publisher podcast that isn&#8217;t aimed at any particular kind of reader but is simply all about the publisher. Boring&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: electricalphabet</title>
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		<description>Peter, I agree with you about starting with blogs as a web entry point, in fact I have started saying to authors that they&#039;re better off with a blog than with the traditional author site which is usually static brochureware that is rarely updated. Blogs are not just cheaper and easier, they are MORE effective, or at least the RSS feed is.

It&#039;s a really interesting question about why more publishers don&#039;t get it right. I&#039;m sure if we look at other industries we&#039;ll see similiar patterns. I&#039;d guess it&#039;s more to do with organisational culture. The three positive examples I mentioned above are smaller, more independent teams with smaller resources. They need to reach out to the community at large, so they understand the opportunities inherent in social media. (HarperStudio is part of a multinational company, but is operating under a newer entrpreneurial model) Perhaps large corporations aren&#039;t as capable of understanding how to act within an online community, and how this changes a company&#039;s thinking about interacting with customers.

Also, any company that thinks of a blog purely as a marketing function is doomed to failure. Not because marketing execs can&#039;t be successul at multi-threaded conversation with their markets. It&#039;s because marketing is not often part of the production chain until the vey end, especially in publishing companies. It&#039;s too late to think about the implications for your company of blogging and participating in social media only after you&#039;ve produced a book.

Oh, and thanks for mentioning The Digitalist, you&#039;ve absolutely right! I&#039;ve stayed subbed to The Penguin Blog too, they do manage an authentic voice and, overall, I remain impressed by Penguin&#039;s ability to leverage it&#039;s own brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I agree with you about starting with blogs as a web entry point, in fact I have started saying to authors that they&#8217;re better off with a blog than with the traditional author site which is usually static brochureware that is rarely updated. Blogs are not just cheaper and easier, they are MORE effective, or at least the RSS feed is.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really interesting question about why more publishers don&#8217;t get it right. I&#8217;m sure if we look at other industries we&#8217;ll see similiar patterns. I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s more to do with organisational culture. The three positive examples I mentioned above are smaller, more independent teams with smaller resources. They need to reach out to the community at large, so they understand the opportunities inherent in social media. (HarperStudio is part of a multinational company, but is operating under a newer entrpreneurial model) Perhaps large corporations aren&#8217;t as capable of understanding how to act within an online community, and how this changes a company&#8217;s thinking about interacting with customers.</p>
<p>Also, any company that thinks of a blog purely as a marketing function is doomed to failure. Not because marketing execs can&#8217;t be successul at multi-threaded conversation with their markets. It&#8217;s because marketing is not often part of the production chain until the vey end, especially in publishing companies. It&#8217;s too late to think about the implications for your company of blogging and participating in social media only after you&#8217;ve produced a book.</p>
<p>Oh, and thanks for mentioning The Digitalist, you&#8217;ve absolutely right! I&#8217;ve stayed subbed to The Penguin Blog too, they do manage an authentic voice and, overall, I remain impressed by Penguin&#8217;s ability to leverage it&#8217;s own brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Nunn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep... the marketing only blogs time has come and gone and hopefully never comes again. Soft Skull are legends and always have been, publishing incredible work across a variety of genres... even poetry which always makes me smile! Must check out 26th Story and Abbeville Maunal of Style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; the marketing only blogs time has come and gone and hopefully never comes again. Soft Skull are legends and always have been, publishing incredible work across a variety of genres&#8230; even poetry which always makes me smile! Must check out 26th Story and Abbeville Maunal of Style.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Haberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess Haberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Serves &#039;em right! I agree about HarperStudio&#039;s doing a great job with Twitter too... always interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Serves &#8216;em right! I agree about HarperStudio&#8217;s doing a great job with Twitter too&#8230; always interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for listing the 3 blogs that you like. I visited them and bookmarked all three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for listing the 3 blogs that you like. I visited them and bookmarked all three.</p>
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		<title>By: peter collingridge</title>
		<link>http://www.electricalphabet.net/2009/01/05/when-publishers-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>peter collingridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kate. Happy New Year - and what a true observation!

I by no means coined this expression, but the easy distinction to make is between a blog - and a &quot;flog&quot;. Most publisher blogs don&#039;t graduate beyond flogging, and often suffer from the self-conscious &quot;hello world&quot; tone of voice that accompanies someone (perhaps a young, &quot;savvy&quot; intern) being pushed out into centre stage (or at least - feeling like they have!) responsible for creating a valuable community of user generated content. And then the bosses wonder why their web strategy didn&#039;t &quot;work&quot; and go back to spending cash on print ads...

There are pockets of non-failure tho - I was very impressed (and again, not alone) by the unexpectedly human and non-corporate Little Brown twitter:
https://twitter.com/littlebrown
although I hope they were recommending / match-making books that weren&#039;t - just - their own.

I also stay subscribed to the UK Penguin blog:
http://thepenguinblog.typepad.com/
although they do do a fair amount of flogging, they also seem to feel just a bit guilty about it.

And the digitalist is less of a flog or a blog than a set of links punctuated by the odd really rather good post:
http://thedigitalist.net/
and I used to enjoy the CharkinBlog by their former CEO, Richard Charkin.

We (my company, Apt) have also built blogs for publishers, usually because we recommend this as a cheap entry point for the web; the reasoning being that if you can&#039;t get a blog right after 6-12 months, better to know that (and change it) than to have spent a load of cash on a more complex site that you can&#039;t handle either. Fail cheaply etc.

But I do wonder what it is about publishers that mans they don&#039;t get it right that often. (Clearly I agree with you about Soft Skull and 26th Floor, who I am happy to see are delighted to stick their necks out) Do other industries? Or is it the fact that &quot;blogging&quot; falls to busy marketing/PR bodies who are culturally tuned to sending out press releases and moving to the next item in the publishing schedule?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kate. Happy New Year &#8211; and what a true observation!</p>
<p>I by no means coined this expression, but the easy distinction to make is between a blog &#8211; and a &#8220;flog&#8221;. Most publisher blogs don&#8217;t graduate beyond flogging, and often suffer from the self-conscious &#8220;hello world&#8221; tone of voice that accompanies someone (perhaps a young, &#8220;savvy&#8221; intern) being pushed out into centre stage (or at least &#8211; feeling like they have!) responsible for creating a valuable community of user generated content. And then the bosses wonder why their web strategy didn&#8217;t &#8220;work&#8221; and go back to spending cash on print ads&#8230;</p>
<p>There are pockets of non-failure tho &#8211; I was very impressed (and again, not alone) by the unexpectedly human and non-corporate Little Brown twitter:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/littlebrown" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/littlebrown</a><br />
although I hope they were recommending / match-making books that weren&#8217;t &#8211; just &#8211; their own.</p>
<p>I also stay subscribed to the UK Penguin blog:<br />
<a href="http://thepenguinblog.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thepenguinblog.typepad.com/</a><br />
although they do do a fair amount of flogging, they also seem to feel just a bit guilty about it.</p>
<p>And the digitalist is less of a flog or a blog than a set of links punctuated by the odd really rather good post:<br />
<a href="http://thedigitalist.net/" rel="nofollow">http://thedigitalist.net/</a><br />
and I used to enjoy the CharkinBlog by their former CEO, Richard Charkin.</p>
<p>We (my company, Apt) have also built blogs for publishers, usually because we recommend this as a cheap entry point for the web; the reasoning being that if you can&#8217;t get a blog right after 6-12 months, better to know that (and change it) than to have spent a load of cash on a more complex site that you can&#8217;t handle either. Fail cheaply etc.</p>
<p>But I do wonder what it is about publishers that mans they don&#8217;t get it right that often. (Clearly I agree with you about Soft Skull and 26th Floor, who I am happy to see are delighted to stick their necks out) Do other industries? Or is it the fact that &#8220;blogging&#8221; falls to busy marketing/PR bodies who are culturally tuned to sending out press releases and moving to the next item in the publishing schedule?</p>
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